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Sep 9Liked by X. P. Callahan

Your poem today dovetails nicely with the subject of my blog, "Memories are Forever," on copyright and fair use. How would you feel about me reposting/using one of your poems in my blog?

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Sep 9·edited Sep 9Author

Hi Celeste.

I was going to drop a comment on your post today, but you seem to have disabled comments.

I had to learn about copyright and fair use as one aspect of my job, so I can tell you that it's definitely a violation of both to post other people's poems without permission. I can also tell you that people do it all the time, and nobody cares.

When I say "without permission," I mean without permission of the copyright holder, often not the poet but the publisher (usually of a book). It's understandable that a book publisher might object to people's having free access to material that the publisher spent time and money producing for a paying audience. At the same time, the publisher might also consider that exposure to a single purloined poem could drive sales of the book. And I'm pretty sure the poet would be happy for the additional readers.

I've had people tell me, after the fact, that they've taken one of my Substack poems and posted it to their Facebook wall. On the one hand, I would have liked to be asked. On the other, once I put a poem out there, if someone likes it enough to share it on another platform, that's great. It's true that somebody could take the poem and publish it elsewhere under their own name. That's unlikely, but if it were to happen, it would be further grist for the Diary Poems mill. So I'm not losing any sleep.

I hope this answers your question about how I would feel if you reposted or used one of my poems on your blog. And if you're asking permission, please help yourself.

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Sep 9Liked by X. P. Callahan

In a parallel track, I have been sending out a spoof, but will save the specifics.....

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Looking forward to that, for sure!

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Sep 9Liked by X. P. Callahan

Your range is just wonderful. I always look forward to your work.

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Thank you, Lev.

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Sep 9Liked by X. P. Callahan

I love this! Some of your phrases are so familiar, even with my relatively brief foray into submitting my work. And I will have to listen to that Becky Tuch session.

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Just having read Green's 2023 interview, I wonder: Other than enjoying it, and saving $, why would the lead in a literary publishing enterprise want to "wear every hat"? Perhaps his view will change as it becomes evident that the existence of Rattle depends, perhaps overmuch, on him?

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Sep 9·edited Sep 9Author

UPDATE: I found the interview, at the second Tim Green link, so that clears up my earlier question. Yes, he does describe himself as wearing "every hat," but with support from those listed on the masthead. Tim does set the overall vision for Rattle, though, where "poetry without pretension" means you won't be reading avant-garde work, but you will find a preponderance of (often very long) narrative poems. This vision is articulated quite explicitly in a recent episode of The Poetry Space (podcast co-hosted with Katie Dozier), where the poet George Bilgere joins the hosts in a discussion of what constitutes "hospitable" (that is, accessible) poetry.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-73-poetic-hospitality/id1675796320?i=1000665646767

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Hi, Deborah. Where was that interview? Curious--not sure what Tim said (or where) about wearing every hat, but here is the Rattle masthead:

https://www.rattle.com/info/contact/#:~:text=%EE%80%80EDITOR-IN-CHIEF%20Alan

I've had work both accepted and rejected by Rattle, and either way I think Tim was not the first reader--or a reader at all, to judge from form rejections I've received.

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Oh, I thought it was an article you'd linked-to, X.P. Here it is: https://substack.com/@timgreen/p-126686710

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Yes, just updated my reply, before I found this latest comment from you. Sorry for the confusion.

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Sep 9Liked by X. P. Callahan

I love this! I refuse to submit where they will not accept the work I've enjoyed publishing via my own 'stack.

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Yes, some people draw the line at paying a submission fee. Some draw the line at being asked to provide trigger warnings. And you draw the line you've mentioned. We all get to draw our own lines in the tiny universe of writing and publishing poems.

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Sep 9Liked by X. P. Callahan

Oh, I've got those other lines too. ;) It's so fun drawing lines, I'm not sure I can stop. Truth is that I don't need publication to have fun.

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I feel you. This is why I don’t go for contests any more. There is a lot of cronyism in the literary world., same folks showing up all the time, judges all know each other. That’s also why I decided to be here on Substack, just so somebody would read what I wrote.

Here’s one I did about this:

https://open.substack.com/pub/caroleroseland/p/contest-rules?r=3myco9&utm_medium=ios

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Thanks for sharing your poem, Carole. I enjoyed it. Are you familiar with the history of the Foetry website?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foetry.com

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I started writing poetry in 2020, so I’m fairly oblivious. I generate lots of boring radiology reports every day, and I spend a great deal of time editing and correcting my resident’s agrammatical ramblings, which isn’t exactly literary genius. They roll their eyes at me Thanks for sharing the interesting link. Someone’s getting rich off all of these contests with piecemeal fees, and perhaps Foetry should be resurrected. Sorry about all those rejections and disappointments. I enjoy your work, for what that’s worth.😊

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Thanks, Carole. I'm not suffering under a burden of rejection and disappointment. It's a numbers game, and sometimes I play. Odds of getting published in almost any environment are about 4 percent at best, so it's wise not to get too invested in the notion that publication = validation. It's very nice when it happens, but it's a by-product of something you're doing for other reasons.

Your mention of your job reminded me of the short story "Johnny Panic and the Bible of Dreams," by the poet Sylvia Plath. Have you read it?

https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/files/sept_1968_-_plath_-_johnny_panic_and_the_bible_of_dreams.pdf

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This should be some fun reading material! I’ll let you know what I think. I’m not suffering, either. I do this for fun, when the spirit moves.

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Sep 9Liked by X. P. Callahan

X.P. In your signature style (razor wit delivered inside highly crafted lines), you skewered the gatekeepers😹 😹😹

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LOL. Thanks, Sharon. All the more fun in that I used to be a gatekeeper myself.

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Sep 9Liked by X. P. Callahan

That’s how you know where the cutting places are😹😹

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SUBMISSION GUIDELINES

X. P. Callahan

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We will not accept

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you’ve published yourself,

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you catapulted

past the gatekeepers.

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to say “Not this one”

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or “Try us again”

(if your poem was

not bad bad

but also not good).

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modest audience,

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Writers, let us unite in no longer endorsing their authority! Let us take back our power as creators! ✊✊✊

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Sep 9·edited Sep 9Author

Cool, Mary. Thanks. And, wow, thanks for the paid subscription!

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Sep 9Liked by X. P. Callahan

this made my morning! and i'm not even a poet!! xox

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X. P., may your days be well-caffeinated. This piece is a double espresso for the writer’s brutalized soul. Caustic, bracing, always brilliant. Come on, folks. You need your daily X. P.

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LOL! Thanks so much, Mary!

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Sep 9Liked by X. P. Callahan

Oh this is just marvelous. And I certainly do care about, and admire, the precision of your craft.

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Thank you, Mike.

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Sep 9Liked by X. P. Callahan

Masterful!

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Thanks, Kim!

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Exploded lunes for the lunatics!

I could hear the rhythm in the piece, but was so taken with both how funny and how on point it is that I didn't try to figure it out.

As for this

poetry

spelunking

the liminal space

between the surreal

and the lip

of eternity

Isn't that every poem ever written? I mean really, it's the entirety of The Cat in the Hat, Howl, and the collected works of Shakespeare. And the monkeys with typewriters.

Thanks for this one, XP - made my day.

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LOL!

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I love your "work" 😁 😉.

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Ha ha! Thank you, Margaret Ann, and likewise.

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Yes... Yes to all of this! This is sublime.

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Sep 9Liked by X. P. Callahan

Ha! It’s too good.

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